tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post1411856191399560889..comments2024-03-17T00:00:13.417+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: The Confounding Nature of the Malazan SeriesAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-6414045849267770842022-07-11T06:16:07.699+00:002022-07-11T06:16:07.699+00:00I'm very late to be commenting here but I just...I'm very late to be commenting here but I just felt I needed to say that I've read all SE's Malazan books- twice, and listened to all of them on audible 3 times. I don't find them confusing and I believe they could stand alone (most of them). I love the broad world building and the many races, the time travel element with Icarium and Trell - the deep history that comes with so many of the characters and the mysteries and surprises from bridgeburners you thought were just regular soldiers. I imagine being taught world history- real world history would be much like these books, with everything happening at the same time and no time to dig deep at the moment - just get the word out. <br /><br />I loved that SE got the series out fast (I felt there could have been some editing but nothing that made me crazy) because after waiting 25 years for Robert Jordon to finish, he had the unmitigated gall to DIE lol!! And to add insult to injury, he picked Sanderson to finish this beloved series. Sanderson had absolutely no feel for Wheel, he had the talent and the notes but he had no heart or soul for WOT and it was such a disappointment. I never worried about that with SE. I've loved the whole series and was never afraid he wouldn't get me over the finish line. I dropped in here tonight because I've been ill and I can't read anymore so I was on audible looking for a new book and I noticed Malazan books by ICE! My internal, possibly verbal, response to that was WTF? So I came here to see if I could find out what's going on. Reading your comments has helped but I'm still not quite sure I understand why SE is passing the flame to ICE. I bought the first of ICE's books tonight, with my last credit so I hope he as good as you say he is. I have almost 1000 audio books and I frequently re-listen to books, and long, long series. I've loved to read since I was 7, it was my escape, my travel, my way out of the place I had to live in and it still serves that purpose. Having lost my sight almost entirely - audible is my miracle! But the point I was trying to make about loving to read was that I used to tell people that I bought my books by the pound! Same with audible. Give me 50 hours and I'm in heaven. SE did that and I loved every word. I hope ICE is the same. <br />Thanks for letting me ramble on. Be well everyone!<br />KimberKimberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745286804928954898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-39210854259714347272020-06-22T10:32:12.612+00:002020-06-22T10:32:12.612+00:00Adam, you know I love long dense series, tons of w...Adam, you know I love long dense series, tons of world building, & deep fantasy. But how far into this do I have to get before I find a relatable female character or anything besides misery and warfare? I'm masochistic enough to love ASOIAF, but is there ever any balance in Malazan because I'm about to give up but people I respect love it so much. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01040755293647207825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-26789262900398164822017-03-22T22:51:05.283+00:002017-03-22T22:51:05.283+00:00Great series I was a fan of more than one genre of...Great series I was a fan of more than one genre of books until malazan which left me starving for more epic fantasy. I read and watched got but they don't even compare to the feelings I was left with after Malazan. Was I confused hell yes and nothing since then has grabbed my attention like that. Reread I would and have never reread anything till mbof and you folks that don't like it just shouldn't read it buy dont bash it people may be looking for a new series read what you are saying and miss out. In conclusion .not is not for everyone but if its your style then hold on for one hella ride. Anythingbthat leaves you thinking for no this is great<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-67789293694654661592016-09-21T02:05:01.367+00:002016-09-21T02:05:01.367+00:00Thermal Pants Bellow Dam you must be kidding me. ...Thermal Pants Bellow Dam you must be kidding me. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-2623770133247644662016-08-26T02:11:35.116+00:002016-08-26T02:11:35.116+00:00Towards the end of Deadhouse Gates Squint mercy ki...Towards the end of Deadhouse Gates Squint mercy kills Coltain from a half a thousand feet. <br /><br />It's a cringeworthy ending to a dull, overblown read, because standing right next to Coltain are Korbolo Dom and his sorcerer... Yet nobody thinks to snipe them. <br /><br />This is a small example of the giant gaping plot hole that is Malazan in it's entirety. Where characters do dumb things so that supposedly epic things can happen, which in turn lead only to more dumb things and more supposedly epic things that just feel cringeworthy and meaningless. <br />Thermal Pants Bellow Damnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-27842634875276342722016-08-04T14:21:17.097+00:002016-08-04T14:21:17.097+00:00I have so much love for the Mazalan series, readin...I have so much love for the Mazalan series, reading through the comments a lot of people that haven't read them seem to feel that people dreading re-reading the series is because they are not very good, I'm personally dreading re-reading them because I'm fully aware that once I start re-reading them I wont be able to read anything else until I'm done and I will once again start obsessing over the series and trying to work out the massive complexities in the story for months after I'm finished<br /><br />Also I hated Karsa Orlong and was greatly pleased when despite being a beast throughout his sections of the books and swaggering around like hes unstoppable proceeds to unexpectedly shit the bed when he meets the actual powerhouses of the story, though I cant remember who it was (Andomander, Icarium, Dassem Ultor?)<br /><br />I'm not a massive Fan of Ian C Esslemont (who I count as official fan fiction)or the Kharkanas books (at this point) but the Mazalan Book of the fallen series I can and do rant about for hours if someone brings them up<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-8559385120974509022015-07-26T02:51:37.642+00:002015-07-26T02:51:37.642+00:00I wouldn't mind seeing an updated, post-Assail...I wouldn't mind seeing an updated, post-<i>Assail</i> version of your thoughts on this Wert.<br />_____________________<br /><br />I started having problems with the series when I got to Toll the Hounds, but for me Forge of Darkness was a real eye-opener and then reaching the end of Assail left me with a sense of emptiness.<br /><br />Forge of Darkness really exposed the undeniable truth that Erikson himself doesn't keep detailed notes or remember a lot of what he has previously written. Neither does he seem particularly troubled by this so I can expect no improvement unfortunately.<br /><br />To me internal consistency of a world is very important and the Malazan series is clearly lacking that. This is not a problem of unreliable narrator, sadly it is a problem of unreliable author.Korakysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-34737569638405452302015-06-07T04:10:57.968+00:002015-06-07T04:10:57.968+00:00Have you read Rothfuss?Have you read Rothfuss?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-39300489945232681412013-03-20T09:55:21.812+00:002013-03-20T09:55:21.812+00:00Thanks for the post - a very interesting read, as ...Thanks for the post - a very interesting read, as have been the comments.<br /><br />Maybe reverse psychology worked on me. I bought Gardens of the Moon having read a lot of negativity towards it, and loved it from the first page. After reading the rest of the series and returning to it, I found it a revelation, and I can't wait to read it again. I often pick one or other of the books up and read passages, and it just reminds me why I liked it so much. As someone else said, this series has ruined a lot of other fantasy series for me.<br /><br />I have found that this is a series that rewards re-reads like no other I have read. I have re-read A Song of Ice & Fire and didn't feel like I gained anything new from the process. George RR Martin may be a better wordsmith than Erikson, but I don't find his world or his characters or, yes, his story anywhere near as enthralling (especially seeing as his story seems to have stalled since the end of the third book).<br /><br />Although the Malazan books are not stand alone, I did like that many of them had their own self-contained narrative with a beginning, middle and end. Sure, questions were left unanswered, threads were picked up later down the line etc, but few of the books ended on cliffhangers. Erikson gives good ending.<br /><br />Regarding the padding, or lack of editing, I believe this applies to practically every major fantasy series out there. WoT, check. Ice & Fire, check. Yep, Erikson's books are over-long, but I can handle padding if the pay-off is worth it and, invariably, I found the pay-off more than worth the effort in each of the ten books of the main sequence (Forge of Darkness is another matter entirely).<br /><br />I could go on and on. I acknowledge that there are problems with the series, but are they dealbreakers? Is it sugar-coating to say otherwise? Of course not. I had far too much fun with the series to worry about that. <br /><br />I am unsure about the books to come, and I'm not much of a fan of ICE's books that I have read to date, but I can deal with that. Nobody's forcing me to read them, after all.<br /><br />I've read the first of Gene Wolfe's series. I didn't like it much. Perhaps I should have another go at it :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-46869226899844480872013-03-05T11:18:05.574+00:002013-03-05T11:18:05.574+00:00Great post, interesting comments. Everyone has suc...Great post, interesting comments. Everyone has such a strong opinion about about this series, seems like SE has achieved what he desired.<br /><br />At the end of the day we are all discussing it. <br /><br />Great series. Has its weakness but which fantasy book doesn't? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-65962853064567478432012-05-17T16:31:51.086+00:002012-05-17T16:31:51.086+00:00Obviously, I am very late to this party and probab...Obviously, I am very late to this party and probably very few will scroll down this far and read my comments. But, as, admittedly, an unabashed believer that the Malazan Book of the Fallen is the best series I've ever read, I would like to say a few things.<br />First, it is the Book of the Fallen, and as such to miss the fact that loss, either through death, forgetfulness, distance, or even the laying down of story arcs that may seem incomplete, is fundamental to Erikson's purposes is to miss the point of the series. At the end of the Crippled God, to realize that like the Bonehunters, we still do not know Tavore and never will, and to know the pain that causes all involved, is to feel EXACTLY what Erikson wants you to feel. Or, at least, one of the many emotions he recognizes are possible responses to life. <br />Second, to be critical of the numerous storylines and characters is again to fail to recognize the point that tragedy, and life, touch on all equally. The shining knight with the magical sword is not fundamentally more important than the poor, ignorant footsoldier. The footsoldier may be forgotten, but his hopes, fears, successes and failures are no less real and also no less worthy of our attention and appreciation. Is this an easy place to come to, no, and do I appreciate Barathol or Kyle's storylines as much as Tehol's and Anomander's? No as well, but I think I should, and that lesson is one of the reasons why I so adore the series.<br />I could go on, but I will finish with this: I think most of the problems people have with Erikson's writing isn't that he fails in some regards, but that he succeeds too well, and in doing so makes us uncomfortable because he calls for us to recognize aspects of life that we typically enjoy passing over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-91089742775016449572011-08-28T21:43:59.249+00:002011-08-28T21:43:59.249+00:00Different strokes for different folks... Personall...Different strokes for different folks... Personally I find SE's books marvelous pieces of art. ICE's books are much more mainstream and plain. But for me the whole series is breath of fresh air in a very stale genre. <br />There are certain conventions in the epic fantasy genre that date all the way back to Tolkien... and they are seriously boring. SE breaks with many of them and that is the source of this famous "divide" between fans of the genre. This makes his work all the more relevant.<br />Yes, it is massive, chaotic, confusing and it does not provide you with easy answers or gives you a denouement for each and every character or story arc you encounter. <br />Neither does life. Just enjoy the ride!IggyFuzznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-61052585864124720072011-07-29T22:35:22.760+00:002011-07-29T22:35:22.760+00:00As a fan of the Malazan series, I do have to say y...As a fan of the Malazan series, I do have to say you make some great points. I hadn't known about Karsa being moved from Erickson to Esslemont, but I do feel cheated by that. I also agree that taking more time for editing would help. I also echo the remarks made by others regarding Toll the Hounds. While still a good read, I must confess that I had a lot of trouble seeing how it fit in with everything else because, aside from Cutter and Karsa, the book picked up with characters not seen in five books. That's not to say I didn't enjoy seeing Rake, Brood, and the others again, but five books is far too long. Plus, as you said, it disrupts the story's flow. I also have to say that Gardens of the Moon, while good, is a very flawed start for the reasons Adam mentioned.<br /><br />Having said all that, Erickson was, IMO, on a really hot streak beginning with Deadhouse Gates and ending with Reaper's Gale. Besides the Bridgeburners, we had Fiddler and Kalam, Tehol and Bugg (easily one of my favorite fantasy duos), Trull, Karsa Orlong (my personal favorite), Onrack, and a whole bunch of other awesome characters. I also have to say that I enjoyed Dust of Dreams almost as much as those 7. I'm a sucker for anything with Icarium and Mappo, the Barghast, the Imass, and basically any giant-like race. By the way, this is one thing that Erickson does better than almost any fantasy writer. Instead of making giants/trolls lumbering, mindless monsters, he makes them into realized characters with their own civilizations.Corran Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14008192172402758696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-17260340422195202052011-07-24T21:40:50.005+00:002011-07-24T21:40:50.005+00:00There are some frustrating passages in the series,...There are some frustrating passages in the series, I agree. However, nothing I have read in my 30+ years of avid reading comes close to this series. Many times I had difficulty reading past my tears in the final book. SE made it terribly easy to transport myself there, standing on the hill, covered in dust, thirty, exhausted, ready to die for my brothers and sisters in our last stand. The message of compassion, the search for meaning in life, all of it...just breathtaking. I wonder if many of you are even reading the same series. The only regret I have after reading the series...I now cannot find a fantasy work whatsoever that fills me with comparable joy and sorrow.Vehemencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-22255096299396832462011-04-04T02:29:28.438+00:002011-04-04T02:29:28.438+00:00I agree with most of the posters here in that I fo...I agree with most of the posters here in that I found the series (done the last book yesterday) amazing and incredibly frustrating at times. It is overreach done spectacularly! :) I think the one moment when I was thinking "wtf" was when Toll the Hounds came out. It felt like a different series/author. No connection at all. I realize now that the series three arcs pick up with alternate books but this is not done very well imo. I shouldn't have to "study" a work of fiction like it was a school text book to get the gist of it. That being said there are incredible characters and battles to be found and I like the series overall....cheersCreoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09767605092721265254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-84445614887732901552011-03-30T00:26:05.164+00:002011-03-30T00:26:05.164+00:00honestly...? I really had no trouble following any...honestly...? I really had no trouble following any of the books thus far... I'm only on reaper's gale, seeing as I've only been reading this series for a month, but if you just accept that you have to look for the clues in casual conversation, rather than being outright told, everything falls into place. at first I had no idea what a warren was, but maged are stepping into them , "drawing from them", and such, so it seems pretty obvious that they are elemental realms that supply magic to those able to channel them. erikson shouldn't be compared to authors like Jordan, because rather than providing a story about a hero and his heroic friends, each glowing in their own shining armour, (I mean, seriously, the most reprehensible thing a ""good guy" does is swear or gamble) SE provides a set of "real" people. I mean, Icarium's a walking tradgedy, Fiddler doesn't know what to do with himself, Karsa's gone from lunatic to zen-warrior, and Cutter's a starcrossed lover in the worst way. Each of these characters are fleshed out because they're not fleshed out. They seem more real because they don't constantly flash back to their one driving force. They're dealt with as people, not plot device. Quick Ben's story was glazed over for a while, but I bet you still liked him, because he acted acertain way, and then, when his story was first told, he still acted that way, and finally, you begin to realize that if you know everything about a character, they become just that: nothing more than a character. SE makes his books more real by not spoon feeding the audience. In real life, do you hear everyone's story as soon as you meet them? NO! It is this very detail that places Erikson above many other authors. Oh, and this really has nothing to d with this topic, but all the lord of the rings had that other fantasies don't is alarge amount of words you might as well not read. I'm speaking of course of elvish. unnessacary, and annoying.gord warfordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-85200114077417414212011-03-28T23:07:02.871+00:002011-03-28T23:07:02.871+00:00Mentioning Erikson (sp?) in the same breath as Gen...Mentioning Erikson (sp?) in the same breath as Gene Wolfe is a sacrilege. I did, however, manage to read the first five or so books before I dropped the whole thing as pointless. That puts Erikson right up there with what's-his-name Jordan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-50799650574993852522011-03-07T11:01:43.135+00:002011-03-07T11:01:43.135+00:00I don't like to consider myself particularly d...I don't like to consider myself particularly daft, but Gardens of the Moon made literally no sense. I read through about half of it before giving up in frustration. Not a single thing was explained or connected. What in the world is a warren? Who ARE these people? I should be able to have some sort of connection to the characters after reading a couple hundred pages about them, but there was -nothing- holding me in. As someone earlier said, I WANT to like the book, but it's just so infuriating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-74987059634638437502011-01-08T14:56:22.583+00:002011-01-08T14:56:22.583+00:00I agree with everything Adam said. The Malazan ser...I agree with everything Adam said. The Malazan series has many great strength - the scope of the world-building, foremost, perhaps - but the story arc from book to book, and even within books has been bewildering. I don't know much about Ian Cameron Esslemont, but if it's true that story threads like Karsa Orlong's have been passed over to him, it provokes mixed emotions in me. I'm a loyal reader - so I always want to read the next book in a series that I love - whether it's Sanderson's completion of the Wheel of Time, or the awful, awful Dune books of Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson. I'm still loyal to Erikson and the Malazan series, but the closer we get to the 'final' volume, the less I think it's going to provide a satisfactory ending - and the less I remember and understand about all that went before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-36581909945582411802010-10-03T00:34:31.133+00:002010-10-03T00:34:31.133+00:00Well, it's kinda late to comment now I guess a...Well, it's kinda late to comment now I guess and I only was able to stomach Gardens of the Moon this couple of years ago as the sole example of Erikson's work, still I have to note that comparing him, a glorified d&d dungeon master with numerous hints of megalomania at best, with Martin or Wolfe is ridiculous. Seriously, these folks can write. Real masters of word-crafting. As to Martin, in my case with every new book in the series went an eager re-read of the previous stuff. Often times I find myself grabbing one of them, at the complete random, choosing one chapter, not caring at all which, and submerging myself in his incredible craft. It never failed me, you know, this guy just delivers. I guess it's as close to wizardry in our world as it gets. And Wolfe? Don't even get me started. He's what? The Dostoyevsky of the genre? And here I read about SE's fans dreading the fought of possible necessity of re-read. <br /><br />I guess the hard truth is that after this level of commitment the Erikson's books require on the ordinary basis, those who carelessly choose to make this commitment find oneselves in a trap of having either sugar-coat him and his more and more evident ineptness or admit they've been fooled.great_o'retyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00744886606155524760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-88772267857171447482009-06-26T13:08:56.319+00:002009-06-26T13:08:56.319+00:00I'm sorry, but saying fans of Jordan's Whe...I'm sorry, but saying fans of Jordan's Wheel of Time can write reams of pages on the history of Andor is ludicrous. I've read every book in the series and the only difference I can see between the many nationalities in his books is that they have different patterns and colors on their surcoats. SERIOUSLY. Excuse me while I go smooth my skirts in frustration...<br /><br />As for the Malazan series, I enjoy every book immensely. THINGS actually HAPPEN, unlike Jordan's series. I may not understand every bit of minutae but I'm entralled by the world and the characters and the humor and the tragedy. Call me a fanboy if you will, but I wouldn't have even commented if not for your ridiculous assertion about Jordan's descriptive skills when it comes to world building. Lether is an infinitely more realized nation than Andor ever was. And I LOVED Jordans books up until the point where Rand cleansed the male half of the source and NOTHING HAPPENED. What a joke. It was like Frodo reaching the fires of Mordor only to discover that he had the wrong ring.<br /><br />I bluster, but you certainly are entitled to your view of the Malazan series. I definitely see how some can be turned off by the rambling immensity of it. Differing opinions don't affect my enjoyment of the books however.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01021996249154233673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-78591161001043345242008-11-27T21:27:00.000+00:002008-11-27T21:27:00.000+00:00Very well written article. I'm new to this series...Very well written article. I'm new to this series having just finished Gardens of the Moon and starting Deadhouse Gates. I think I'm lucky in that I've come to this series with 8 of the 10 books already in print. I can read this intricate, detailed, amusing, exciting and annoying story for the next few weeks and really get lost in it. Then I will do what I did with Robert Jordan's series of books....put them away until the LAST book has been written. My memory is good but I must admit to having difficulty trying to keep over 100 characters and umpteen dozen storylines fresh in my head for over a year until the release of the next book and after the 5th or 6th book is released, it's a pain having to re-read the series again in order to refresh one's memory. My personal library is over 5,000 books, which I do re-read again and again over the years. I'm looking forward to this journey through Malazan. It's gonna be a fun trip!TyrLoranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18026660457463950555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-44888356285913667442008-10-25T19:22:00.000+00:002008-10-25T19:22:00.000+00:00Excellent article! It sums up my own feelings abou...Excellent article! It sums up my own feelings about the series very well. I enjoy the series, and have recommended it, but I do find it has a distinct 'dungeons and dragons' feel to it and maybe could have benefitted from being smaller in scale. You descibe all the best points and worst points very aptly. I will say this though - Erikson's output is very impressive because I don't feel that quality has been comprimised to any real extent. He is, and will be, one of the most noted names in fantasy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-81711646918807273992008-10-14T00:41:00.000+00:002008-10-14T00:41:00.000+00:00Hmmm, I think at the core level I agree with you -...Hmmm, I think at the core level I agree with you - Erikson has maybe lost the plot a little or at the very least needs another 6 months in between novels for editing and story cohesiveness.<BR/><BR/>But I think that all of what you sid is also one of the major reasons I love this series so much. I absolutely love the fact that some things don't get explained, that story elements are forgotten or lost or what we were made to think was important was actually just so much thin air.<BR/><BR/>I dunno, I guess i just like the sprawling nature of the series and th fact that so often I have absolutely no idea WTF is going on. It may all be explained int he next two books or it may not, either way so long as I enjoy the novels along the way I don't much care. I can't wait until The Crippled God where I'll have a massive re-read of the whole series just before it is released (much like I plan to do with Wheel of Time).<BR/><BR/>Have yet to read RotCG but have ordered it even though Night of Knives was reasonably ordinary.<BR/><BR/>Oh and comparing Malazan to Lost is spot on.Jebushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00985667608602099242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-71235460643452860882008-10-13T12:21:00.000+00:002008-10-13T12:21:00.000+00:00The problem with delivering the books very fast is...The problem with delivering the books very fast is that there is little or no editing done on them. Erikson has admitted not doing drafts, and that he is able to overrule many of his editor's decisions by saying, "It all gets explained later, relax." This is not good writing or publishing practice (which seems to be borne out of the series' modest sales), and the series' many resulting rough patches will hurt its overall quality in the long run.<BR/><BR/>That Erikson is able to get such vast, complex books written so fast is highly impressive, and the quality is high compared to many writers of the same or slower speed (Goodkind, Feist, Eddings, Brooks), but with more time for writing, editing and polishing this series could have been far better than it is.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.com