tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post1435708073601485424..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: Wertzone Classics: The Black Company by Glen CookAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-20328406057395975232012-03-27T11:04:36.412+00:002012-03-27T11:04:36.412+00:00The D20 RPG does have a map. It was online a while...The D20 RPG does have a map. It was online a while ago but got pulled, I'll see if I can find another image of it.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-34745822883954370182012-03-27T07:29:11.378+00:002012-03-27T07:29:11.378+00:00the two short stories that have been released in t...the two short stories that have been released in the collections are two chapters of the new black company novel that he is working on. this new novel will take place between book 1 and book 2.<br /><br />as to glossing over the violence... the narrator croaker says something to this in regards to not wanting to paint a picture one way or another... rape, pillaging, sacking a city, all involve these behaviors and he did not want to paint "his family" members as villains.<br /><br />No Map. the reason for no map is to allow readers to use their imagination. there are places in the book where people will mention distances between places and the number will not always match... this is because of the different ways each group or culture equate distance. it basically does not tie down the author to a specific map but more importantly it allows the reader to picture it themselves.<br /><br />also in regards to the map.. there is a D20 Black Company rulebook and it too does not include the map for this reason (though it has pretty much everything else). personally for me I actually tend to not bother with maps anymore in my readings (elizabeth moons books, GRRMs books) etc.<br /><br />I hope this helps a little. all this information can be found and confirmed in the various interviews posted on the internet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-30736983570005255462012-02-11T03:30:51.712+00:002012-02-11T03:30:51.712+00:00If you enjoyed the first 2 omnibus editions, you w...If you enjoyed the first 2 omnibus editions, you will enjoy the rest of the Black Company novels. <br />Dread Empire series takes a while to get your head around, but once you do it is a great read. Just finished the series. <br />I'd also recommend the Garrett PI novels. Sam Spade meets Tolkien and just plain fun to read.<br />Haven't read any of the Instrumentalities novels. How are they?SSGStelzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-58883129906931905572012-01-10T17:40:05.756+00:002012-01-10T17:40:05.756+00:00Hi Wert,
do you have any info on 'A Pitiless ...Hi Wert,<br /><br />do you have any info on 'A Pitiless Rain' and 'Port of Shadows', the two final Black Company novels?<br /><br />Cook has mentioned them at least as early as January 2005, when he said in an interview that he has "a bunch of other stuff [he has] to do first that's under contract. It will be several years before a new Black Company novel comes out."<br /><br />With the concluding (?) Dread Empire novel 'A Path to Coldness of Heart' finally done, it might be only the fourth novel of his Instrumentalities of the Night series that's in the way, I hope!<br /><br />I'm also wondering if the two BC short stories will be collected (maybe together with further BC stories?) sometime down the road. Would be nice.Jenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03623941508503788134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-52595187719394963102012-01-10T17:30:05.006+00:002012-01-10T17:30:05.006+00:00I read the first two omnibus editions but not yet ...I read the first two omnibus editions but not yet the last two due to mixed feedback. Any thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-30799964832809204002012-01-09T15:33:33.828+00:002012-01-09T15:33:33.828+00:00Loved Black Company too. How is Dread Empire? Ne...Loved Black Company too. How is Dread Empire? Never dove into that one but it looks like it's finally coming to a conclusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-34607199853786001112012-01-09T05:17:03.237+00:002012-01-09T05:17:03.237+00:00Ha, I like the idea of Cook leaving out a map so a...Ha, I like the idea of Cook leaving out a map so as to increase his later freedom.<br /><br />But just to clarify my position a little, I didn't mean our lack of a map matches our narrator's lack of a map--it's not a 1-to-1 correspondence. I meant that, as a rhetorical effect, our lack of a map corresponds to Croaker's bug's-eye view. <br /><br />BUT, I should add, I have some mixed feelings about this book. You know Le Guin's essay, "From Elfland to Poughkeepsie" (iirc)? She says that modern fantasy writers can mess up in two ways: by copying Dunsany too closely (we'd probably say Dunsany or Tolkien) or by writing as if they were reporting on Poughkeepsie's union issues. I kind of dig Cook playing around with the mercenaries's view of the Standard Fantasy War. But I sometimes feel like it's too Poughkeepsian. Or maybe that's the point?Benjamin Blattberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03163091516093037765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-829976012659674262012-01-09T00:23:43.794+00:002012-01-09T00:23:43.794+00:00I had mixed reactions to this book. I did like th...I had mixed reactions to this book. I did like that it covered so much ground and spent a lot of time on the characters, but at the same time, the occasional lack of subtext began to grate, and it felt episodic to the point that I wondered if it had been written as a serial. Later on (as I recall -- it's been a while) the author seemed to be re-introducing (or re-describing) the characters every chapter or so, even though we'd been with them the entire time. Also, I started to feel like the author was actually afraid to describe violence -- when he'd spend 4-5 pages describing a card game and then 2 sentences on a brawl afterward. It's definitely a different take on this genre, but I didn't feel it was as successful (as a piece of writing) as it could have been.James Prayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12509353283987908424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-17975097348790064092012-01-08T20:21:37.388+00:002012-01-08T20:21:37.388+00:00This book is great, probably the most epic 300 pag...This book is great, probably the most epic 300 page book I have ever read. To me this is one of the great series of the genre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-20249761173345419172012-01-08T17:42:50.090+00:002012-01-08T17:42:50.090+00:00This is without a doubt one of my favorite series....This is without a doubt one of my favorite series.<br /><br />The first and only map I've seen for it was in Green Ronin's Black Company OGL game. It's um ... a kinda boring map. But it may work for some reference.dwarf74https://www.blogger.com/profile/12736643592510342193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-74412545829375546982012-01-08T16:18:32.646+00:002012-01-08T16:18:32.646+00:00Interesting point on the map, although Croaker doe...Interesting point on the map, although Croaker does actually have access to the company's maps (and he and the Captain have a conversation in the second book over a map) so the prescence of a map would still make sense even given the 'ground level view' that is part of the effect Cook is going for.<br /><br />I suspect Cook just wanted freedom of action to bring in new features as necessary and not be limited to something he drew many years earlier.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-24194609807775879382012-01-08T16:01:23.785+00:002012-01-08T16:01:23.785+00:00Thanks for introducing The Raven to a new crop of ...Thanks for introducing The Raven to a new crop of readers and bringing up some good memories of one of my all time favorites. I really loved this series and I think Cook's writing gets even better as the series progresses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-66155366599449911362012-01-08T15:50:30.362+00:002012-01-08T15:50:30.362+00:00I wonder if the absence of a map is cheapness/lazi...I wonder if the absence of a map is cheapness/laziness or might be tied into the narrative form. That is, we see things from Croaker's POV and Croaker doesn't know everything. Instead of a bird's-eye view of the action, we get a boots-on-the-ground eye view--so why should we get a map? So the lack of description and the confusion (both narrative and geographical) are part of the same effect.Benjamin Blattberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03163091516093037765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-3376672649130749752012-01-08T15:10:20.555+00:002012-01-08T15:10:20.555+00:00I replaced my AWOL copy of the Black Company with ...I replaced my AWOL copy of the Black Company with the omnibus edition some time ago, but have yet to read Shadows Linger and The White Rose. I too enjoyed the Black Company so thanks for the reminder to pick it up sometime soon.JamesYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152850062648450444noreply@blogger.com