tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post3490213439957031790..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: The Song of Ice and Fire So Far: Part 2 - The Dragon KingsAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-87834325360648673652013-07-08T06:59:39.774+00:002013-07-08T06:59:39.774+00:00As a response to your first comment, the dragons w...As a response to your first comment, the dragons were born because of the deaths of Khal Drogo, Rhaego, and Mirri Max Duur. Three lives for three dragons. Only death can pay for life, it is known. <br /><br />Great post! Sandhyahttp://www.quora.com/Sandhya-Rameshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-42908902511493251032013-05-09T00:21:56.566+00:002013-05-09T00:21:56.566+00:00Great post!!!
I'm really curious who Aegon V...Great post!!! <br /><br />I'm really curious who Aegon V and Jaehaerys II ended up marrying. I came across that Jaehaerys's married for love but could not find out who that was to.<br /><br />Since the Targaryens have a habit of marrying kin its always interesting when they pair up with other houses and mix blood. Dreaming Moonlilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03891622514425665939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-1317542532187276542013-01-08T20:22:30.830+00:002013-01-08T20:22:30.830+00:00Maybe the red comet has something to do with the h...Maybe the red comet has something to do with the hatching of dragons?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-6949397975248840272011-08-13T14:54:48.650+00:002011-08-13T14:54:48.650+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056133415423447292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-21633442494054191342011-08-13T14:53:15.577+00:002011-08-13T14:53:15.577+00:00I think that Drogo's body was a major part of ...I think that Drogo's body was a major part of Dany's success in hatching her dragons. With everything we've learned about the power of a king's blood, it makes sense to me.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056133415423447292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-80591451942743688752011-07-31T16:07:51.964+00:002011-07-31T16:07:51.964+00:00Thanks to later revelations, however, that interpr...Thanks to later revelations, however, that interpretation of the prophecy is now up in the air again. That point requires further clarification in future books, I think.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-20017410600289740812011-07-30T22:36:18.462+00:002011-07-30T22:36:18.462+00:00Daenerys was successful in dragon hatching because...Daenerys was successful in dragon hatching because of the prophecy she fulfilled, "born of fire and salt" Born on Dragonstone, and the apperance of the "bleeding star" the red comet and three sacrifices. Her stillborn son, her husband Drogo, and the blood sorceress maegi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-191837639086194282011-07-07T00:32:18.717+00:002011-07-07T00:32:18.717+00:00Daenerys isn't invulnerable to fire either (th...Daenerys isn't invulnerable to fire either (though the TV show suggests she is, or at least far more tolerant than most people). According to GRRM, what happened with the dragons hatching was a one-time deal created by those precise circumstances. If Daenerys stepped into a fire now, she'd be toast like anyone else.<br /><br />So whilst it's possible that destiny played a role and that's why Dany got the eggs to hatch and Aegon V didn't, it's also possible that he simply didn't fulfil the same criteria (i.e. he didn't - as far as we know - have a human sacrifice).Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-86230352609758834682011-07-06T23:55:50.298+00:002011-07-06T23:55:50.298+00:00The eggs didnt hatch when summerhall burned becaus...The eggs didnt hatch when summerhall burned because the Targs there were not invulnerable to fire. So accidental burning or not the eggs wouldnt have hatched for Aegon if he could be killed by fire. As we know Dany was shown to first be immune & from what we've gathered, Most Targs are actually not immune to it as a lot of them have died while trying to hatch some eggs.Cydalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14882385996624183616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-63981492586360760222011-07-01T08:57:26.014+00:002011-07-01T08:57:26.014+00:00What happened at Summerhall was clarified by the R...What happened at Summerhall was clarified by the RPG and comments by GRRM, though we still don't know the full details (and I doubt we will until the final Dunk and Egg story).<br /><br />We are essentially told what happened in the Doom in AFFC, and this is confirmed by a passage in ADWD which I was made aware of.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-26018845660594364762011-07-01T01:12:33.142+00:002011-07-01T01:12:33.142+00:00Great post but it has NEVER been stated what the d...Great post but it has NEVER been stated what the doom of Valyria was or what happened at Summerhall. You make good conjectures but that is all they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-19788583399167862132011-06-27T18:08:21.525+00:002011-06-27T18:08:21.525+00:00Great stuff! One comment, though: I don't bel...Great stuff! One comment, though: I don't believe Jorah Mormont had been knighted at the Siege of Pyke; if I recall correctly, he mentions to Daenerys that he "won [his] knighthood that day".<br /><br />Great work - thanks for the refresher.NKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-17032646744758853322011-06-23T09:44:50.849+00:002011-06-23T09:44:50.849+00:00Great work.
One question and one comment:
Questi...Great work.<br /><br />One question and one comment:<br /><br />Question: where did you find the info about the maiden daughter of Aeghar Targaryen who has prophetized the doom of Valyria? Is she the same of the Signs and Portent book mentioned by the Reader in AFfC?<br /><br />Comment: about Dany and the birth of dragons. I think that Dany was able to awake the dragons because she is the chosen one, the prince who was promised, azhor ai reborn, etc. . There's not a lot more in there. No convoluted alchemy. She is destined to be the mother of dragons and all it asks is Fire (the pyre) and Blood (Mirri) but not as a magic formula or a ritual (as Melisandre seems to believe) but more as a step to embrace her fate.FedericoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16211429733114725323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-31439815036999449132011-06-23T08:47:42.015+00:002011-06-23T08:47:42.015+00:00You've mentioned you were gonna do a write up ...You've mentioned you were gonna do a write up about the order to read the Malazan books after you read Stonewielder. Any chance of that next?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-19260099680324092402011-06-22T12:44:04.673+00:002011-06-22T12:44:04.673+00:00These write ups are both fantastic. Thank you so m...These write ups are both fantastic. Thank you so much for putting the effort in to them. They have made for a thoroughly good read.<br /><br />I noticed one minor typo. Dunk was sworn sword to House Osgrey, not House Osprey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-44568905942366100402011-06-22T02:10:31.237+00:002011-06-22T02:10:31.237+00:00There will be another part or two covering the boo...There will be another part or two covering the books along shortly. Maybe tomorrow, if I can manage it.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-10021846969891772332011-06-21T19:36:31.294+00:002011-06-21T19:36:31.294+00:00Adam - You should post a Part 3, a recap of what h...Adam - You should post a Part 3, a recap of what has happened in the last 3.5 books so we can remember for this coming second half of book 4. They came out so long ago I can only remember half of what happened! <br />Great backstory and recap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-5303457225031138662011-06-21T19:18:02.828+00:002011-06-21T19:18:02.828+00:00Great stuff, these summaries, and keep them coming...Great stuff, these summaries, and keep them coming, please!<br /><br />I've been wondering, where did you find all the art on the theme of ASoIaF? As in, is there some sort of a dedicated site for those, or did you just find them all over the internet?<br />I loved them, particularly the ones which depict the buildings, which sounded spectacular in the books, but I never had much of an imagination, so I couldn't quite picture them in my head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-30632037859366765122011-06-21T05:05:04.370+00:002011-06-21T05:05:04.370+00:00Fantastic work, Adam! It was a great read and bro...Fantastic work, Adam! It was a great read and brought back to mind a lot of things I'd forgotten as well as teaching me a LOT of new history. Do you have any plans to do a similar summary of the books up to ADWD?dingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320220620298420969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-17214433087422950802011-06-20T23:21:22.333+00:002011-06-20T23:21:22.333+00:00A lot of the detail on the Targaryen Kings came or...A lot of the detail on the Targaryen Kings came originally from GRRM's notes he supplied to the artist Amoka for their portraits (though most of that information is now in the books as well, mostly ASoS and AFFC, plus the HEDGE KNIGHT short stories). The RPG provided the details of the War of the Ninepenny Kings, a war which increasingly looks important to the backstory given it sets up Hoster, Brynden, Littlefinger and Barristan Selmy, as well as the Golden Company (who we hear a lot about in ASoS and AFFC and may appear in ADWD).Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-7225930038410878372011-06-20T22:54:49.790+00:002011-06-20T22:54:49.790+00:00That is a pretty impressive timeline you've ma...That is a pretty impressive timeline you've managed to compile! Thanks for writing it.<br /><br />I was wondering if all this information is in the books. I don't remember reading a lot of it.<br /><br />Maybe I glossed over it as I tore through the series, it's a bad habit of mine.Jeremynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-16288146719316116402011-06-20T20:20:09.000+00:002011-06-20T20:20:09.000+00:00very cool stuff!
nice work.
is there more to come...very cool stuff!<br />nice work.<br /><br />is there more to come or is that it for now?<br /><br />i will definitely post this on my blog!<br />www.fantasyfilter.blogspot.comYonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05716480639098424002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-71268372283262391672011-06-20T18:57:11.340+00:002011-06-20T18:57:11.340+00:00Yup, Robert definitely spread the story that Rhaeg...Yup, Robert definitely spread the story that Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna, and this seems to be the assumption a lot of people were working under (even Brandon and Rickard). The evidence to the contrary is somewhat less well-supported going by the evidence, though the emotional indications are that Lyanna was rather more willing than not.<br /><br />I don't think there's any indication that Balerion died of anything other than old age. As for the other two of Aegon's dragons, don't know. If they were as old as Balerion, maybe they didn't make it to the Dance.<br /><br />As for Summerhall, I think that intentions may play a role there. The place burned down by accident, or so it appears, rather than through an outright act of blood sacrifice. It's also possible that maybe the dragon eggs simply weren't ready to hatch (if they're the same eggs that Dany gets, for which there is some vague evidence, they'd be 50 years younger).Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-88531052264975990612011-06-20T17:34:02.870+00:002011-06-20T17:34:02.870+00:00Comment on #4 there - would intentions come into p...Comment on #4 there - would intentions come into play there? Sure, he never intended to sacrifice a human life for his dragon, but he certainly ended up burning people alive. Is it possible there are dragons alive out there that we don't know about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-17804776168053292552011-06-20T17:13:36.288+00:002011-06-20T17:13:36.288+00:00Great post. Though, Aerys II Targaryen kinda looks...Great post. Though, Aerys II Targaryen kinda looks a bit like Edward Scissorhands. :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com