tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post4643888858644462236..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: Spider-Man 4 cancelled, Maguire & Raimi walk, reboot plannedAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-22884346013367059182010-01-12T22:31:30.741+00:002010-01-12T22:31:30.741+00:00I read somewhere that the reason for the initial d...I read somewhere that the reason for the initial delays and than eventually the split was that Raimi refused to put out a fourth film with a script he didn't approve. Apparently he did not like the third movie's script either but was overruled. I guess the issue he had was that the Lizard was the main enemy in the fourth one and he wanted to go in another direction.<br /><br />Anyway, I am a little disappointed as I was still hopeful they could redeem themselves and put out an amazing movie like Spiderman 2 was. However, I think that ship has sailed regardless and they should just let this rest. The thing I hate about reboots is you have to sit through the same origin story all over again.<br /><br />They really bungled this up. They could have done the Green Goblin/Harry Osborne in the third one and saved Venom and even Carnage for the fourth one and that would have been awesome.Jeffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-58072213281780043512010-01-12T16:43:12.214+00:002010-01-12T16:43:12.214+00:00How about a Spiderman with age appropriate casting...How about a Spiderman with age appropriate casting? Macquire was like 27 when he did Spiderman. Part of Spiderman's charm has always been the sort of youthful zest he has despite the tragic nature of his first days. I always felt that exuberance was shirked for the films in favor of some of the angst/melodrama that has also consistently plagued the character.<br /><br />Though maybe the movie will open wither Toby Macguire as Pete making a deal with Mephisto to start all over again. That'd work, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-63051307364049428012010-01-12T13:58:19.016+00:002010-01-12T13:58:19.016+00:00STAR TREK was only six and a half years, so it was...STAR TREK was only six and a half years, so it wasn't a vast difference in time. However, it was the first film in fourteen years with any of the original characters (and seventeen with any of the original cast), which did make a difference.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-56657492969107726642010-01-12T13:56:28.272+00:002010-01-12T13:56:28.272+00:00AYH: I think reboots are very important. The super...AYH: I think reboots are very important. The superhero genre has, for whatever reason, never embraced consistency - which may be a big flaw in terms of the comics, but is actually a boon in a larger cultural sense: Batman and Superman and Spiderman are not characters in a story, they're characters in a mythology. What we do with them is like what the Greeks did with their heroes.<br /><br />No superhero film is a film OF the story of the characters, because they don't have 'a story' - it's a film that uses those characters, and various elements of the established mythology. Different films can draw on entirely different elements of the mythology, and show them in totally new ways. Batman et al have become so 'large' that there's always more that can be done with them. <br /><br />Batman is a good example of that. We've got the Adam Ward series and film, we've got the Burton films, and we've got the Nolan films - all are about Batman (and have in turn gone on to shape the public consciousness of the characters), but all are very different in style and tone and characterisation. I preferred Burton to Nolan, but I'm glad they didn't just carry on making films in that series (even if they hadn't gone to hell when he left), because it's allowed us to see an entirely new Batman.<br /><br />Who knows, maybe the new Spiderman will show us something different as well?<br /><br />[I doubt it; it's obviously far too soon for a reboot, and Spiderman is rather less interesting than Batman to begin with, but hey, you never know]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-87203995935066622342010-01-12T12:18:12.175+00:002010-01-12T12:18:12.175+00:00I don't know if it is the reason for the split...I don't know if it is the reason for the split, but there had been talk of tension between Raimi and the studio over the choice of villain. Raimi wanted the Vulture, the studio apparently were not keen.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-14726497479586915942010-01-12T12:12:55.425+00:002010-01-12T12:12:55.425+00:00I agree, the third movie was a mess. Think they ne...I agree, the third movie was a mess. Think they need to let some time pass before a reboot though, as they did with Batman and Star Trek.Alex J. Cavanaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770065693345181702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-90193411632902556532010-01-12T08:05:29.532+00:002010-01-12T08:05:29.532+00:00I can't be the only person who grinds his teet...I can't be the only person who grinds his teeth at the word "reboot" (and not because I have a crap computer). Seriously, I get that it's about money. I know the deal. But I don't have to like it.<br /><br />Me, weaned on comic books until the age of 30, can't stand the thought of another "All new all different" Spider-Man. I hear <i>World of Warcraft</i> and go, "Cool!" I hear <i>Robotech</i> and go, "Awesome!" (As well as "Die, Min-mei, die.")<br /><br />But the comics I loved as a kid ... I saw them made into movies and was happy. They weren't horrible. But I don't want to see them redone. I'm finished with them.About Yea Highhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793554542231898182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-3885728633280396252010-01-12T04:44:30.485+00:002010-01-12T04:44:30.485+00:00Thor started filming today. So Marvel is still tru...Thor started filming today. So Marvel is still trucking.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16360866031595951964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-58948742619122659552010-01-12T04:24:43.170+00:002010-01-12T04:24:43.170+00:00Last I heard, the next 'main' X-MEN movie ...Last I heard, the next 'main' X-MEN movie is apparently going to be a prequel set in the school with Storm, Cyclops and Jean as teenagers just starting to grips with their powers. New castmembers for them, but possibly with Stewart still in place as Xavier. Interesting take as it's a sort of reboot without actually being a reboot, and brings back Stewart without having to find some way of resurrecting him from the events of X3, which would be lame.<br /><br />Of course, whether they can do a new X-MEN movie without Wolverine somehow cropping up is another question. Good news is that Bryan Singer is apparently considering returning to direct (and ahead of his planned BATTLESTAR GALACTICA movie, which really would be a remake too far).Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-59578789442679595412010-01-12T04:21:18.847+00:002010-01-12T04:21:18.847+00:00X-MEN is with Fox, I believe, so they can't jo...X-MEN is with Fox, I believe, so they can't join the party (at least not without a tremendous wad of a cash and a complicated licensing agreement). I believe the rights for FANTASTIC FOUR and DAREDEVIL are also with other studios, so they're out, at least for now.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-15891164838184135322010-01-12T04:01:21.442+00:002010-01-12T04:01:21.442+00:00I hope they take the opportunity to work Spidey in...I hope they take the opportunity to work Spidey into the greater marvel universe (Iron Man + Thor + Hulk). Maybe add the X-men too (it is up for a reboot too, right?!<br /><br />Don't have the patience to sit through another emo high school origin tale though...Hrishi Diwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210068993421968663noreply@blogger.com