tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post9145462571118024963..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: HBO confirms seven-season plan for GAME OF THRONESAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-22609546501304525062016-04-14T06:58:58.935+00:002016-04-14T06:58:58.935+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642315026263962126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-85801635098611084672016-02-02T06:26:04.271+00:002016-02-02T06:26:04.271+00:00'm a book reader, and to be honest I don't...'m a book reader, and to be honest I don't really feel the potential outrage that some of my fellow readers seem to threaten if the show catches up to the books. Yes, the show can never be as good as the books, and yes, I'm aware that there are many people who've been reading since before the show who may feel 'betrayed' if the show finishes before the books (Full disclosure: I only read the books around a year ago and started watching when Season 3 started) but my two cents is that I will be statisfied if Martin's story is told more or less as he wishes it to be, regardless of the medium. <a href="http://www.gameofthronesseason6live.com/" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> for more.<br />Thewindowsplusbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05593866123417191641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-269041728565986952015-12-16T17:14:11.241+00:002015-12-16T17:14:11.241+00:00Season 7 is yet to come.
Game of Thrones Season 6...Season 7 is yet to come.<br /><br />Game of Thrones Season 6 is coming in april 2016. <a href="http://hbogameofthronesseason6.com/" rel="nofollow">Check here</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642315026263962126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-45923248554969978122014-11-23T09:23:32.800+00:002014-11-23T09:23:32.800+00:00disappointed about the tv series a little about de...disappointed about the tv series a little about deviated from the book... but its ok...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878859510601198176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-12609200764072039002014-06-10T07:30:03.865+00:002014-06-10T07:30:03.865+00:00At least this will keep us busy watching for some ...At least this will keep us busy watching for some years. Whether GRRM can maintain the momentum for his show is indeed the challenge. I suppose he can't <a href="http://www.ranker.com/list/game-of-thrones-recap-season-4-episode-8/matt-grippi?format=SLIDESHOW&page=1" rel="nofollow">kill off so many characters</a> either without introducing new ones. And whether the series is supposed to end at all (in the books as well as the TV series).Kurgan_Connellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-51878579785502192882014-03-15T11:55:23.833+00:002014-03-15T11:55:23.833+00:00To be honest, last two books have been terrible af...To be honest, last two books have been terrible after the amazing third one. Nothing really happens exept cersie having lesbian sex and tyrion wishing he was drunk. That can easily be filled into one or one half season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-9523579736942319732014-03-14T09:33:39.365+00:002014-03-14T09:33:39.365+00:00"There's no way Martin will catch up. Win..."There's no way Martin will catch up. Winds of Winter would need to come out early next year (2015) to give enough time for the screenwriters to write the episodes before production on S6 would start later that same year, for a 2016 broadcast."<br /><br />That's not so much of a problem. If GRRM is repeating what he did with ADWD, he's almost certainly already giving Benioff and Weiss copies of the incomplete manuscript. By the time they start writing Season 6 (which would be around September 2015) the MS would - hopefully - be close enough to completion that they nail most of it.<br /><br />The bigger problem is Season 7/ADoS. It may be possible to get GRRM to write more episodes than normal of Season 7 (including, hopefully, the finale) to get more of his voice into the characters, or for him to perform an extra script edit on the scripts to ensure important dialogue he has in mind for the final book still gets in there.<br /><br />However, I think we are, as said above, underestimating Weiss and Benioff a little. They've been writing this show for four years already and most of their original stuff (and Cogman's) is pretty good anyway, dialogue-wise.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-29282591449427734262014-03-14T05:20:17.408+00:002014-03-14T05:20:17.408+00:00One important factor I didn't see anyone addre...One important factor I didn't see anyone address is that, even if HBO were willing to slow down or delay production on any future seasons in order to let GRRM stay ahead with his writing, this is ultimately impossible due to the high number of child actors playing major roles. <br />With each passing year, it becomes more and more difficult to pass off Maisie Williams and Isaac Hempstead-Wright (Arya and Bran, respectively) as children. Any delay in production would only exacerbate this problem. <br />It may be possible to recast some of the other important children's roles, such as Rickon, Myrcella, and Tommen, because those actors have yet to have significant screen time, but even that could increase expenses, because the search for child actors is always more complicated than casting adults.<br />Granted, we don't know how involved any of these characters will be with the events of books 6 and 7 (and in certain cases, the events of books 4 and 5 may affect how some characters will be portrayed), but at the very least I think it's certain that Arya will continue to be integral to the story, and Maisie Williams has grown an awful lot since Season 1 was filmed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-42789339837004277382014-03-13T23:54:57.125+00:002014-03-13T23:54:57.125+00:00I am amused at the idea that the producers can'...I am amused at the idea that the producers can't have a good show without a book to adapt. Many seem to be forgetting that some of the best scenes on the show aren't from the books at all. Examples: Robert and Cersei's dialogue about marriage, Varys and Olenna, Varys and Littlefinger bantering, Tywin and Arya, Jaime-Tywin skinning deer scene,Yoren's monologue, etc,. Ill stop there. <br /><br />My point is this: the writers on this show can actually WRITE. So unrustle your jimmies. Also: its not like book 4 and 5 are perfect either. There is some serious fat that could be trimmed from them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-39919334775468489352014-03-13T22:43:24.576+00:002014-03-13T22:43:24.576+00:00There's no way Martin will catch up. Winds of ...There's no way Martin will catch up. Winds of Winter would need to come out early next year (2015) to give enough time for the screenwriters to write the episodes before production on S6 would start later that same year, for a 2016 broadcast. So he's already way behind the show!<br /><br />C.B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-39875096201356284002014-03-13T20:21:50.435+00:002014-03-13T20:21:50.435+00:00For me with snow on the throne in Dany's visio...For me with snow on the throne in Dany's vision (from TV) is pretty much says who will get the throne an who his parents is is also clear enough. And Dany has to fight Wight Walkers at some stage. <br /><br />Apart from this Martin can differ from TV the endings for some characters, Arya and Sansa for example, retaining more fitting and complicated ones for the books. <br /><br />Still all this situation means that the book series will become TV series, leaving books second role.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-22072776082990320452014-03-13T19:28:01.362+00:002014-03-13T19:28:01.362+00:00I'm a book reader, and to be honest I don'...I'm a book reader, and to be honest I don't really feel the potential outrage that some of my fellow readers seem to threaten if the show catches up to the books. Yes, the show can never be as good as the books, and yes, I'm aware that there are many people who've been reading since before the show who may feel 'betrayed' if the show finishes before the books (Full disclosure: I only read the books around a year ago and started watching when Season 3 started) but my two cents is that I will be statisfied if Martin's story is told more or less as he wishes it to be, regardless of the medium. <br /><br />Of course I'd like George to finish first, but I will definitely watch the show if it catches up. Invictushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02679701018656016695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-1420924911494718302014-03-13T17:10:57.055+00:002014-03-13T17:10:57.055+00:00Good analysis and a realistic appraisal of where w...Good analysis and a realistic appraisal of where we are and are likely to go.<br /><br />7 seasons would be a good outcome. I'm not as negative as most that the remaining published books wouldn't translate well to screen, in fact I think the political intrigue will be more obvious than it was in the books. And therefore more popular.<br /><br />Personally I don't mind being spolied with the tv series the books will only conclude in 2020 or so and anything could happen to grrm by then. Looks like this time next year we'll be seeing TWOW material on screen this time next year...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-40356467201734368722014-03-13T14:38:44.475+00:002014-03-13T14:38:44.475+00:00It's telling that the book fans didn't spo...It's telling that the book fans didn't spoil the Red Wedding for the TV fans but as soon as the Red Wedding aired in America, everyone there spoilered it to death for the rest of the world.<br /><br />It's a shame we'll know how the series finishes from the heavily cut down TV show rather than the books but hardly surprising. <br /><br />If it carries on as such as success, maybe some of the American Networks can find some completed fantasy series to adapt. Thomas Covenant is equally unpleasant :)Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09622441892958864311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-24498416044501419172014-03-13T11:43:59.173+00:002014-03-13T11:43:59.173+00:00I don't understand why people are blaming the ...I don't understand why people are blaming the show runners for this. It's hardly their fault Martin is late in finishing the books. However I won't blame Martin either as he should take his time to finish the books as he want.<br />This is just one of those things that happen when you cross media. There's no one to blame really because everyone has their own views and interests to protect.Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05160118520611754510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-79433018540043771562014-03-13T10:26:17.458+00:002014-03-13T10:26:17.458+00:00I have to say that I'm pretty unhappy with thi...I have to say that I'm pretty unhappy with this. Having started the story with the books I want to finish it with the books, but there is no way that I could go unspoiled for a couple of years (especially as everyone in my office watches the show).<br /><br />If the tv show is going to finish first I'd prefer if the show and the books diverged with the show writers coming to their own conclusions (I know this probably won't happen as GRRM has given them details about how it all ends).<br /><br />What would be the chances of HBO taking a two year break between two of the seasons? I know this can sometimes happen with UK TV shows, but I wonder would an American station ever agree to it. It could give GRRM the time he needs to finish.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-80426577879105518392014-03-13T08:42:22.044+00:002014-03-13T08:42:22.044+00:00HouseLark:
That's exactly what I meant with my...HouseLark:<br />That's exactly what I meant with my comment that this is GRRMs fault entirely.<br />He knows how the TV business works and by selling the rights to HBO what would happen.<br />It seems he completely misjudged how long it would take him to finish the books and that he would be able to stay ahead of the TV series, which is frankly ridiculous considering his past writing pace. His self-awareness seems to be lacking to say the least.<br />Also, more irritating in my opinion is his stupid book touring / signing / travelling all over the world. I think he wasted an entire year doing that and then some by writing short stories for the WORLD book. Not to mention all the shitty anthologies and side projects he insists on doing that no one cares about.<br />If he had actually worked on the book, he might have had a chance of staying ahead of the TV series, now it's just a bad joke, that unfortunately is on his oldest and most faithful fans.Rolandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-84281217552924783002014-03-13T08:21:48.059+00:002014-03-13T08:21:48.059+00:00"you mention HBO not being interested in 80 o..."you mention HBO not being interested in 80 or 90 episodes...why is that? I thought it was a huge hit, tons of buzz for the network, etc. why wouldn't HBO let them do it for 20 seasons if they wanted? It's very highly rated no?"<br /><br />It's not sustainable. Under American film and TV contract law, actors can be tied into a show for no more than six years, usually with a one-year renewal option. That's why American shows tend to last for six to seven seasons. To get to seven seasons, of course, the show must be very popular but that itself has a drawback in that the actors (and their agents) can then demand higher salaries for being on a successful show. So for an eighth season all of the actors who debuted in Season 1 would get substantial wage increases. In Season 9, all of the actors who debuted in Season 2 would get the same, plus the actors from Season 1 would get a further wage increase (as after the first seven seasons, the general practice is to renegotiate contracts on a year-by-year basis).<br /><br />For example, the actors on the sitcom FRIENDS negotiated higher wages for their seventh season onwards with a price hike each year. That meant that by Season 10, each of the six main cast was on $1 million per episode. That pushed the budget of FRIENDS per-episode in its final season up to something like $6.5-7 million each, or roughly what GAME OF THRONES costs now! The same thing on GoT - and certainly actors like Dinklage, Headey, Harington and Clarke could get wage hikes not far off that - would rapidly make the show more expensive than series like ROME. Given that GoT's budget is already increasing year by year anyway, that would rapidly push the cost of the show into the unaffordable zone, regardless of how popular it is.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-10403368185924393662014-03-13T07:50:51.253+00:002014-03-13T07:50:51.253+00:00I can't believe that HBO really wants to trump...I can't believe that HBO really wants to trump the books with their one ending. We all want the books as soon as possible, but we also want the quality of those books to be as high as possible. So to give George more time and ease the pressure (which I am sure one of us can truly appreciate), I would personally ask that HBO take the opportunity to spend more time, and more money on the 6th and 7th seasons maybe adding extra episodes, or splitting the seasons (as was done with the final season of The Sopranos). Taking more time would surely give us an even better series, allow plot lines and character arcs room to breathe and develop (the 3rd season, whilst excellent sometimes felt rushed to me). The popularity of both the franchise as a whole surely warrants breaking the rules, or at least bending them as much as possible to allow George to properly finish the story. Breaking the rules is something HBO is known for anyway. <br />Further (indulge my ramblings). Taking longer to film the last couple of seasons would allow actress Emilia Clarke the time she will surely need to fulfil her other duties as the new Sarah Connor. They could even extend the franchise further by offering some kind of mini series as a filler whilst the main series takes a break, for example filming the Tales of Dunk and Egg or The Princess and the Queen. 'Tales of Game of Thrones' perhaps? <br />Bottom line: It's HIS story after all. No one I think has the right to pen the words 'The End' except George R.R. Martin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-4600973205682371592014-03-13T06:53:17.313+00:002014-03-13T06:53:17.313+00:00My concern is that GRRM will start writing his boo...My concern is that GRRM will start writing his books to follow the show rather than the show writing to follow the books.<br /><br />The show has many strengths, but the writing is variable, sometimes great, sometimes merely serviceable, and sometimes hackneyed. I believe the greatest strength the show has is that it (mostly) follows the books.<br /><br />Thus, I fear that once the show gets past the written material, its plotting and writing will suffer. But what I fear most is GRRM yoking his story to a less accomplished story out of loyalty to the show.Mazzacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-68676580753431371182014-03-13T06:30:56.309+00:002014-03-13T06:30:56.309+00:00They bought the rights, they can do whatever endin...They bought the rights, they can do whatever ending they want.<br />Waiting for George to finish the books??!! Are you kidding? I just hope he LIVES long enough to finish them.Funksoul123https://www.blogger.com/profile/14512374627441568219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-34302389662992732112014-03-13T05:10:48.473+00:002014-03-13T05:10:48.473+00:00I love both the books and the TV series, but if it...I love both the books and the TV series, but if it comes to pass that the show needs to wrap up before the books are done, I will stop watching the show. I prefer to finish the series in prose, whenever GRRM manages to finish up. After that, I can always polish off the rest of the HBO series on blu-ray or whatever.Space Cadet Juanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178861800472965724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-49888723659246783652014-03-13T03:44:36.930+00:002014-03-13T03:44:36.930+00:00Adam, maybe a dumb question - you mention HBO not ...Adam, maybe a dumb question - you mention HBO not being interested in 80 or 90 episodes...why is that? I thought it was a huge hit, tons of buzz for the network, etc. why wouldn't HBO let them do it for 20 seasons if they wanted? It's very highly rated no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-89931813047528601982014-03-12T23:22:03.838+00:002014-03-12T23:22:03.838+00:00To be honest Martin could increase the speed of hi...To be honest Martin could increase the speed of his writing simply by avoiding doing all these side projects he's spent so much time focusing on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-81661779567426159842014-03-12T22:07:12.523+00:002014-03-12T22:07:12.523+00:00As many have said before, I love the first three b...As many have said before, I love the first three books, feel so-so about the fourth, and found the fifth to be nearly unreadable. The show leaves a lot to be desired, but it's relatively well done and enjoyable. I really do not think GRRM is going to finish this series. I am glad the show is going to bring some kind of closure to the saga that more or less follows his storyline. I actually feel like they might do a better job of it than GRRM with his books after being so disappointed by the 4th and 5th ones. <br /><br />PKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com