tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post1899604602038511080..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: The Matrix ReloadedAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-51571985684926191552020-09-03T19:12:27.798+00:002020-09-03T19:12:27.798+00:00All the humans in the Matrix are grown in immense ...All the humans in the Matrix are grown in immense farms before being plugged into the Matrix. I assume at a certain point, when the system needs it, it downloads the One program into one of the created humans (in this case Neo). One theory is that the One is in fact the same genetic template each time (i.e. Neo is a clone of himself) so in both past and future iterations of the cycle, they could have Neo and Trinity around but they're not the same Neo and Trinity as in the original trilogy. Although I think that would veer into the "too confusing for the mass audience" side of things.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-87934486602746606352020-09-01T00:10:25.039+00:002020-09-01T00:10:25.039+00:00Thanks for explaining that. You're right, tha...Thanks for explaining that. You're right, that's all there in the Architect's speech,but he is less clear. How then does Neo (a person in a tank) become the One, a program created by the machines? I've never tried to think it through rationally before. I just treated it as prophecy.<br /><br />Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08902802137324262883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-32855785406189194702020-08-31T02:07:48.819+00:002020-08-31T02:07:48.819+00:00I agree that the main problem of the movie is paci...I agree that the main problem of the movie is pacing. The second problem, in my mind, is Zion. What's cool about the The Matrix - the first movie - is the Matrix itself and what goes on inside of it. By focusing on Zion, which is outside of the Matrix, and the cliche "save humanity" plot, the movie slides away from its coolest and most distinctive feature. The best parts of the movie - the opening sequence, the freeway battle - take place within the Matrix and are decidedly cool. Zion scenes, not so much.Jackalwerehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09654710359851192155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-18479986353977235132020-08-30T22:13:14.519+00:002020-08-30T22:13:14.519+00:00I greatly enjoyed Matrix Reloaded, and even though...I greatly enjoyed Matrix Reloaded, and even thought the Architect scene was brilliant. The editing could have been better, but the fight scenes were so good I didn't care if they went on a little long. <br /><br />My only real complaint is that the CGI in the "Burly Brawl" between Neo and 100 Smiths wasn't quite up to task. But given that I also watch cartoons, I can still enjoy the innovative fight choreography in it. I just wish it was better.<br /><br />I was always startled at just how much vitriol was thrown at this movie; I was watching it FOR all the philosophy references and they were still in there. <br /><br />....Matrix Revolutions was the one that had actual problems in it, which with the distance of time really just amounted to "Trinity's death scene was too drawn out". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-52727505637698347062020-08-30T22:10:32.788+00:002020-08-30T22:10:32.788+00:00Responding to Werthead's above comment: I also...Responding to Werthead's above comment: I also got the impression that when Zion's population reaches a quarter million, it reaches a certain...threshold size, at which it might start posing a serious threat to the Machines. So they cull it before it can get big enough to ever be a serious threat.<br /><br />Retroactive analogy: sort of like how the Reapers in Mass Effect always wipe out galactic society just as its on the cusp of developing true AI (give or take a few centuries, on the scale of 50,000 years).....BUT that "this cycle is different" because the Protheans managed to shut down the Citadel's signal...thus the Reapers are "late" for this cycle, so the galaxy has the glimmer of hope that no other cycle ever advanced as far technologically as they have. In the case of the Matrix, "this cycle is different" because Neo chose NOT to go along with the massacre (and his actions inadvertently created Virus-Smith, which is screwing up the Machines on is own). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-67120523696662313212020-08-30T20:58:35.166+00:002020-08-30T20:58:35.166+00:00That is explained in the film. The machines themse...That is explained in the film. The machines themselves founded Zion and put the original 23 human settlers there themselves, and allowed Zion to survive. Most of the people in Zion also appear to be born there, not rescued from the Matrix. Every 100 years or so, the machines trigger the One programme, which results in the Matrix being rebooted before the systemic failure in the Matrix reaches exponential status. The machines need to pretend this is the first time the Matrix has been existed, so they also wipe out Zion, and then re-settle it with a new founding group of 23 people. Before Neo, this happened five times in succession.<br /><br />The machines always know where Zion is and can destroy it at will, they just choose not to because if they did, the One programme would not be able to operate as freely as they need it to before it returns to the source and reboots the system.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-38221521182237742432020-08-30T17:57:44.805+00:002020-08-30T17:57:44.805+00:00I actually like the Architect scene and the Merovi...I actually like the Architect scene and the Merovingian. Over the top dialogue has always interested me from B5 to Firefly to Deadwood to GRRM. I wish more content creators would take risks in this area. But the world building of the real world in the Matrix is just terrible. I can't willingly suspend disbelief in the last,underground human city with the religious name and travel via hovercraft. I appreciate your pointing out some of this is explained outside the films, but without that I see a lot of contradictions and things that don't work. It's very hard to understand how you can have a whole city of people who were laboriously unplugged from the Matrix and taken deep underground while the machines are always at the point of wiping humanity out. <br />Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08902802137324262883noreply@blogger.com