tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post4227212042101154077..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: What now for THE WHEEL OF TIME?Adam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-30201439086360384432015-02-25T08:45:28.096+00:002015-02-25T08:45:28.096+00:00An animated series is the ONLY way to do put the e...An animated series is the ONLY way to do put the entire Wheel of Time series on screen whole and complete. No edits, no rewrites, no shifting of character roles to accomodate a budget/shooting schedule (Harry Potter, as an example, shifted the deeds of several characters to other characters to streamline things). I do agree, however, that an animated adaptation could do the series justice as far as the vision and scope of the books. It just wouldn't be the same. Plus, not much animated (or even anime actually) with the level of specific and detailed gore present periodically throughout the series. That kind of graphic detail almost never translates properly in animation.<br /><br />Doing the Wheel of Time series as movies is beyond a pipe dream. There are ridiculously too many recurring characters and subplots and side stories, etc, to fit into a live action movie series. IT CAN NOT BE DONE! For starters, very few of the 14 book series could be condensed into a two to three and a half hour movie without making cuts that would irrevocably harm the series as a whole. Not without ridiculously extensive rewrites and combining of characters (which in itself would ruin things for me). Then there's the fact that maintaining a cast and core crew through the massive production schedule that would be required to finish it is beyond a logistical nightmare. How many actors would want to knowingly commit to a project that will require practically half their entire career?<br /><br />A live action television series (done ala Game of Thrones) is the best compromise but even there you are seeing too much compromise. For one, you would have to manage the complicated and undesirable task of reordering all of the events of the books in rough chronological order. Not impossible, but definitely a painstaking process. Having things off-balance chronologically is a little acceptable going from the end of one season into the next. The books have entire main story threads that occurred simultaneously several books apart in the series, though. That wouldn't work for a television viewing audience who will need all their favorite characters to get screen time every season to maintain their interest season after season. Also, while the edits and condensing of the story/characters wouldn't be near as bad as it would be in a movie series for Wheel of Time, it would still have to happen to fit everything in properly. Inevitably we could end up losing smaller yet still beloved characters or having some awesome segments and events happen off-screen and only covered in reference/conversation. Not unforgiveable, but painful for the hardcore fan following Wheel of Time has. <br /><br /><br />All in all, while I would kill to get to see the Wheel of Time series on screen I just don't think it can be done. Or rather, I don't trust that anyone could put it on screen and do it sufficient justice to not butcher my favorite book series of all time.<br /><br />Now, as to expanding the universe? That I am all for. With the exception of potential stories mentioned by Jordan himself before he died I don't think anyone should touch the existing characters for their new works (at least not more than as cameos or background characters to provide reference to where things our in the world/timeline). The world Jordan created, though, is rife with opportunity for other stories, side stories, exploration, etc. Heck, just Matrim Cauthon's past lives alone give a glimpse into a potential whole collection of additional books! Then of course, there's always other media. I know I would kill to get to see a Wheel of Time rpg done in the same vein as Bioware or Obsidian rpgs. I mean, how can you create a world so rich and deep in mythos and then not want to explore every nook and cranny of it you can think of? The lore of Wheel of Time is just too deep and too good never to go back! We need more! It just shouldn't follow the existing characters/stories beyond what Jordan had already hinted at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-31940094861608295832014-11-26T01:43:32.480+00:002014-11-26T01:43:32.480+00:00"I see people asking why a movie series won&#..."I see people asking why a movie series won't work.. Here is a VERY simple reason, it's this thing called TIME, from the first book to the last was TWO years, that's it two years. Now let us look at the Lord of the Rings movies, it took them THREE years to THREE books, how long do you think it will take to do 14 books? even if they managed two books per year, we are STILL talking 7 years, there is a major physical difference in a person's appearance from the age of 16-20(the approximate age of our heroes) and the age of 23-27, much less 30-34 if they only managed 1 book/movie per year. MY belief is the series would be best served if they chose to bring it to life, is the first book as a movie and the last book as a movie (since those battle scenes just couldn't be done otherwise) and the REST of the books as a split season t.v. series, with each half season being a book. Since there are some books where we see very little of one character that gives them time for shooting scenes for the final movie involving that character. and now you are talking 12 books done over the course of 6 years at max, a little better number in the aging factor of our illustrious heroes."<br /><br />While I agree with much of what you have to say here, the Game of Thrones series producers don't seem to have much problem swapping characters out - re: Gregor Clegane X3, and Daario Naeharis X2. Both of those guys play fairly major roles in the series, and all of my fan-friends of the series were shocked and disappointed at the replacement, but it didn't detract enough from the (TV) series to prevent me from loving it. <br /><br />It also stays very close to the books in both accuracy and pace, which is brilliant writing, if you ask me. And you can, as I write professionally, haha. I share your concern about accuracy and staying true to the original works. It would be difficult to pull off, but no moreso than GoT, I don't think. Universal could give Showtime a run at it, and I believe their excellent writers could make it work. <br /><br />And actually, the series is 14 books, spanning three years. Maybe four. Meaning that if someone wanted to take on a project that huge, they would definitely have to have the financial backing and writing/acting talent to pull it off. I'll use the live-action version of Avater: The Last Airbender as a perfect example. M. Knight Shamylan - regardless of his success with "The Sixth Sense" - neither had the writing chops, the directing chops, nor the producing chops to pull off a project of that magnitude, even though he did all three, sadly. Had his ego not gotten in the way, and had he actually watched the series and/or read the manga, he might have pulled off a good enough job where we could at least see a sequel from a different egomaniac. But we won't...because M. Knight utterly ruined that movie, which, in my opinion, is one of the most beautiful television shows ever aired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-10394125645263325072014-03-01T15:35:50.358+00:002014-03-01T15:35:50.358+00:006-7 season Cable TV series would have to do... 8-...6-7 season Cable TV series would have to do... 8-16 episodes per Season covering 2 books per... This is my best case scenario for something that could honor Jordan's work... Even at this Scope they would have to edit the Fluff in the Series and be mindful of aging characters. Expanding the not so clear timeline in the Series would make sense and also casting Teens that are not Teens in reality would have to do...<br /><br />Joe K-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-3162404427265844682014-02-25T14:24:44.269+00:002014-02-25T14:24:44.269+00:00I see only one way to adapt WoT into a screen. To ...I see only one way to adapt WoT into a screen. To make animated series (european, american or anime style, whatever). Big screen movie is obviously an utopia. TV series is a good idea, but in this case adaptation will lose a lot of epic - even Game of Thrones with its outstanding budget had to miss battles which was a mess, ridiculous.<br />Animated series will cope great with all of the WoT aspects.konsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04993276745089391146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-30273938006087623272014-02-13T21:38:30.426+00:002014-02-13T21:38:30.426+00:00I've been reading much of the same comments on...I've been reading much of the same comments on future WOT books for the last year now. Basically it boils down to..."Well, Sanderson/Harriet said that there won't be more books, so it must be so." Riiiiigghhhht....<br />It's possible of course, but far more likely that there will be more novels eventually. Sanderson has no control except to decline writing any more. There is $$$ to be made. It may take Harriet's passing, but once an estate has control or a crack in any rights they will cash in on this literary property. There will be more novels and other property exploration, it's just a matter of time.Superhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208358506896071732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-88865717696655926512014-01-18T05:57:04.353+00:002014-01-18T05:57:04.353+00:00I want to see the continuing adventure of Tuon and...I want to see the continuing adventure of Tuon and Matt in the return to her homeland to stablize the Seachan...... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-7785690975006253932014-01-11T11:40:28.002+00:002014-01-11T11:40:28.002+00:00I'm surprised some fans are against further st...I'm surprised some fans are against further stories with these characters being written by various authors. There seems to be some belief this detracts from Jordan's or Sanderson's work. Nothing could be further from the truth. Simply don't read them if you don't want the original series spoiled for you. It really is that simple. I, for one, would be quite interested in reading a george r.r. martin take on a Nicola/Areina adventure. Or a Stephen King take on a Logain adventure. Steve Perry could take on young Wil A'Seen from the Two Rivers and have a good time with it. <br />Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868032379100492694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-73532168118918285542013-12-31T14:14:19.559+00:002013-12-31T14:14:19.559+00:00Like everyone here I have read the books. This ser...Like everyone here I have read the books. This series is so full of twists and intrigue that it would be great as movies or a HBO type series. But they would have to follow the books. Look at the difference between the game of thrones and sword of truth series. I see some of yall say it won't work it would and could. If the movie world would stop trying to make cookie cuter movies. No one wants to see a 2nd 300 movie or another sin city bomb. If you can make 7 Fast and Furious and the Riddick series then you can do this too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13215997451496509592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-16785077947389031952013-10-20T02:01:36.925+00:002013-10-20T02:01:36.925+00:00An animated series is possibly the worst idea i...An animated series is possibly the worst idea i've read esp. if it's anime. Live action or nothing at all. A 7 season tv series is the only way it could be done as they can be filmed in 3-6 months so it will only age the actor 3-5 years (depending on if you want to give the actors some time off), post production would obviously slow down the release and it would have to be done by a premium cable channel in order to get the quality needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-2706485107116695902013-09-28T03:46:27.123+00:002013-09-28T03:46:27.123+00:00I have often wanted to try my hand at writing one ...I have often wanted to try my hand at writing one or more of the stories mentioned within wot. Especially the sword, the rose, and the flame. Possibly the travels of Jaim.<br /> If some one wanted to try to compose this epic in a way that adapted it for the big screen I think 3 movies might be able to cover it. The Dragon Reborn The White Tower, and then The Final Battle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-88473943985397000232013-09-20T03:20:20.570+00:002013-09-20T03:20:20.570+00:00I would love any continuation of the series whethe...I would love any continuation of the series whether it be books,a tv series,or movies as long as they don't screw it up like game of thrones did in season 2 by not going by the book. I respect that people want it to die but I want more for example star wars/trek got added on to and it didn't ruin them. Also Sanderson is better than i expected he's not Robert Jordan but in my opinion no one could have done better Under the circumstances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-44471900132964786572013-08-07T19:30:22.293+00:002013-08-07T19:30:22.293+00:00Anyone saying the series should be expanded is foo...Anyone saying the series should be expanded is foolish, as Robert Jordans express wish was that the series be finished and left alone should he not survive to finish it himself. Why would his wife and family go against his wishes? That would be horrible. It was bad enough that he could not finish it himself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-11412814056623845042013-07-26T22:59:49.274+00:002013-07-26T22:59:49.274+00:00If done like game if thrones I would be ok. If do...If done like game if thrones I would be ok. If done like legend if the seeker I will be dissapointedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-65991558945459606382013-07-10T03:47:00.385+00:002013-07-10T03:47:00.385+00:00That's a great idea. As long as it's a qua...That's a great idea. As long as it's a quality network doing the shows like HBO Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-57353529802803258252013-07-10T03:44:23.945+00:002013-07-10T03:44:23.945+00:00I think the series should continue. It ended with ...I think the series should continue. It ended with so many possibilities, Not to mention all the spin offs they could write about individual characters throughout the series. I would hate to see it end with so many questions unanswered. even though there could be No substitute for Robert Jordan there are still plenty of quality writers out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-69818210693062299582013-07-09T06:38:31.581+00:002013-07-09T06:38:31.581+00:00Actually, you could make a convergence of movie an...Actually, you could make a convergence of movie and television.<br /><br />Do 2 movies for the first book.<br /><br />Do a 3-5 season television series for books 2 - 12 like they are doing with Game of Thrones.<br /><br />Then do 2 movies for AMOL.<br /><br />Its a unique concept, not unlike Firefly/Serenity, and the buildup each year would be tremendous.<br /><br />AND... TV would be the key to getting through the dry parts of books 6-10.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-42828901757171759182013-07-01T08:19:45.013+00:002013-07-01T08:19:45.013+00:00I gave read the wheel of time many many times and ...I gave read the wheel of time many many times and every time I find something new that I have missed before. I am a big mmo fan I play wow a few hours a week and wold be first in line to buy a wheel of time mmo in a heartbeat :-) and will be there in line with the rest of the wot fans for the movie if it ever made lol I may even dress up in costume for it. :-) dtoohey76https://www.blogger.com/profile/03128170374635503869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-42672971013556247902013-06-26T18:54:33.379+00:002013-06-26T18:54:33.379+00:00I would have to whole heartedly agree with Michael...I would have to whole heartedly agree with Michael Diehl. Brandon Sanderson receives my praise for finishing such an epic installment of the best science fiction series I have read. Yet, i do not feel the same lust for knowledge and hunger for chapters the same way I did while reading Jordan's books. I completely understand wanting more, and if Jordan were alive to do so, I would expect him of all people to WANT to expand his world. I will always reread his work and will enjoy this series until I awaken from my dream :) Robert Jordan has changed my life foreverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-63579646939256679232013-06-10T19:01:55.685+00:002013-06-10T19:01:55.685+00:00Maybe Netflix could take on the project as a serie...Maybe Netflix could take on the project as a series? Perhaps an animated series will solve the problem of aging actors and the special effects required for the magic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-6581693998368615682013-06-08T19:09:44.934+00:002013-06-08T19:09:44.934+00:00If we're making music comparisons... Led Zeppe...If we're making music comparisons... Led Zeppelin's drummer died, so the band stopped releasing albums. <br /><br />You still hear them on the radio today, 30 some years later. <br /><br />Death is final, let it lie.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01424048821658394874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-24311955787650480232013-05-24T05:32:33.960+00:002013-05-24T05:32:33.960+00:00Sanderson has proven he has what it takes to take ...Sanderson has proven he has what it takes to take the reins. His own series, Mistborn, was epic and in my opinion right up there with Mr. Jordan's. It was no Wheel of Time, but Megadeth is no Metallica ;)Larznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-11989201335862697682013-05-19T12:18:26.439+00:002013-05-19T12:18:26.439+00:00I would love to see anything done with this series...I would love to see anything done with this series,but sadly it won't happen.the truth to the matter is hollywood see's dollar signs and quick turnover's of it only.the art craft of making anything like hamlot is dead,we are a fast food mentallity not 16th chapell.I enjoyed reading wot and will pass it to my kids,to teach them how any idea can become something special.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-68734893726130560362013-05-13T21:15:02.815+00:002013-05-13T21:15:02.815+00:00The movie should be a cartoon and everyone should ...The movie should be a cartoon and everyone should be an animal. I just can't decide if Perrin should be a wolf or a young bull. Either way, my idea is awesome and you all know it's awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-29298000184219455632013-05-10T10:28:11.536+00:002013-05-10T10:28:11.536+00:00I am dreading a TV series not after the disappoint...I am dreading a TV series not after the disappointment that was legend of the seeker this is a series that deserves better than that it will demand a huge production cost i.e heavy use of cgi,battles,magic use etc a lot of the epic stuff will be cut in the transition to TV we will all end up with a poor representation of GOT either make a movie,animation or don't film this at all. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01733961868105208335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-13516997899627250322013-05-07T09:02:05.660+00:002013-05-07T09:02:05.660+00:00I would be quite interested to read the Tuon/Mat t...I would be quite interested to read the Tuon/Mat trilogy. And I will DEFINATELY get the encyclopedia! As much as it sounds good, I think that a movie or TV series, it may cheapen the series. And as corny as it may sound, WoT really excites my imagination, and a movie may just limit that... That is my opinion...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com