tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post932529463873705142..comments2024-03-22T19:07:21.790+00:00Comments on The Wertzone: Sales of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE overtake THE WHEEL OF TIME and DISCWORLDAdam Whiteheadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-49507874001086125012018-08-01T13:57:39.211+00:002018-08-01T13:57:39.211+00:00I've bought and RE-BOUGHT each series several ...I've bought and RE-BOUGHT each series several times. Because both series took so long between each entry, every time a new one came out I'd decide to 'finally' read them all to catch up. I bet many people did this over the decades, thereby inflating sales. Because WOT has so many more books, this effect has happened more often for it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-72271388772478340192018-07-31T21:02:35.495+00:002018-07-31T21:02:35.495+00:00ASoIaF was always the biggest new, "adult&quo...ASoIaF was always the biggest new, "adult" hit in fantasy though. At least since the internet (2000s).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-18566186140016970662018-07-31T17:05:00.837+00:002018-07-31T17:05:00.837+00:00Jim: the other impressive thing about WOT's sa...Jim: the other impressive thing about WOT's sales is how condensed they were. WOT came out six years earlier than ASOIAF, but its massive blockbuster sales were mostly in the 1990s (Jordan's last three installments, from 2000-2005, were widely criticised even by fans and he rather slipped from the head of the genre around that time). <br /><br />Of course, that doesn't help their case compared to ASOIAF, which has been even more concentrated in sales - mostly just the last few years, after the first couple of GOT seasons.<br /><br />But it is eye-opening compared to people like Tolkien or Lewis, whose works were continually re-introduced to generation after generation for forty (or in the Hobbit's case sixty or seventy) years even before WOT came around, whereas WOT's sales came mostly from a single generation in a single decade.vacuouswastrelhttp://vacuouswastrel.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-56295071118260631952018-07-30T00:24:32.833+00:002018-07-30T00:24:32.833+00:00"My brain is struggling to parse this sentenc..."My brain is struggling to parse this sentence. Is it me? Or is something missing from this sentence?"<br /><br />If you take the US book sales of a series which has a TV adaptation, that's a baseline for the total worldwide number of sales. So WoT's US sales (56 million) don't translate into 112 million worldwide (as far as we know; his international publishers were quite adamant it was 80 million four years ago) because of the lack of an adaptation, but ASoIaF's do because GoT has been a massive global success. In fact, the reach of GoT is absolutely huge, reaching countries in South East Asia and even the Middle East where western fantasy is usually completely ignored, with corresponding booms in sales there.<br /><br />You have to be careful on these rules of thumb as they do change with time - for years it was assumed Hollywood movies need to make 2x their budget to turn a proper profit but more recently it appears to now be 3x - but this one seems rock solid.Adam Whiteheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11383677312079611311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-83093862083968320502018-07-29T10:28:35.349+00:002018-07-29T10:28:35.349+00:00It is hardly surprising that aSoiF has overtaken W...It is hardly surprising that aSoiF has overtaken WoT after close to 8 seasons of worldwide TV and media coverage from the TV show. It would frankly be deeply shocking if it hadn't. The really impressive feat is that WoT is almost on par without any kind of adaptation and minimal media coverage ever. It is actually by far the best selling work of epic fantasy without an adaptation, possibly by a factor of 5 or something. When/if the WoT adaptation comes out on Amazon sales of the books will of course skyrocket, especially since Amazon has strong incentives to push book sales in connection to the TV show.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03703887937633677229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-57628146248833213422018-07-29T07:46:09.373+00:002018-07-29T07:46:09.373+00:00Why do you think he'd care? Up until now WoT h...Why do you think he'd care? Up until now WoT had sold more units, do you really think he'd cares if WoT surpasses ASOIAF again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-90009891516968754962018-07-28T23:47:46.392+00:002018-07-28T23:47:46.392+00:00One can hope One can hope Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01250261096252685768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-4522663998759152332018-07-28T21:30:27.047+00:002018-07-28T21:30:27.047+00:00"The publishing rule of thumb is that global ..."The publishing rule of thumb is that global sales once a book series has exceeded c. 20 million copies (with a film or TV adaptation available) are more than double that of the US."<br /><br /><br />My brain is struggling to parse this sentence. Is it me? Or is something missing from this sentence?<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />IlyaIlyahttp://suddentype.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-70908156573406114692018-07-28T17:27:05.481+00:002018-07-28T17:27:05.481+00:00Hopefully the WoT TV series do well and their sale...Hopefully the WoT TV series do well and their sales overtake GoT. Maybe that'll lit a fire under Martin and get him back to writing.Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05160118520611754510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7703856341303488608.post-69435929206788776022018-07-28T16:03:08.505+00:002018-07-28T16:03:08.505+00:00No doubt some of this probably has to do with the ...No doubt some of this probably has to do with the HBO series. I remember in the early days of the show's history, and between Books 4 and 5, it was still 'niche.' <br /><br />I'm definitely looking forward to Books 6 and 7 (those that complain about the delays....yes, it kind of sucks but look when the other books were published. Waiting shouldn't be a surprise by now.)<br /><br />Fire and Blood has also been pre-ordered, and I've got A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms and the Lands of Ice and Fire. insurrbutionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042968205118806388noreply@blogger.com